it will run around 25 or so empty and will step with 4 men. I am assuming NON cdi, You can have a diode issue in the harness. Re: SURFACE DRIVES IN DEEP WATER. Anybody running this Courville prop on a Pro Drive. The 35 HDR looks to weight 295. If you use a wrench or screwdriver to "jump" the post on the solenoid it starter should engage normally-if not likely solenoid problem. Keep in mind I've only run this boat with these new mods for about 10 minutes, so I'm sure there's a bit more to be desired. I went to the Northwest Sportshow today and there was an Aquatraction booth. Bearing failure in the outdrive is usually due to failed seals on the outdrive allowing water in that causes corrosion on the. Re: 35 Hp vanguard upgrade help. It appears that more and more Prodrive owners are making the swap to this engine and are hitting me up for information. 's recommend a 9x7 prop for the 27 HP Kohler LT. 2014 Prodigy 1754 17' overall length. Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:57 pm. Location: Tarkington, TX. 6K people responded Event by Alan Flores and Caroline B Crater Packs Landing Public · Anyone on or off Facebook Getting down in the swamp and testing the durability. I can load it with 3 good sized guys all 215+ pounds, 2 dogs, 5 dozen weighted keel mallards and 1 1/2 dozen floater geese, personal gear and everything else needed for a duck trip and still get on step pretty quick in shallow water and run 24-27 mph depending on. 16 minutes in to my first time out I was stranded with a broken belt. I would suspect your prop could be worn, High rpms and lost speed/load carrying ability is a symptom. Boat Brand:Alumacraft (New) Boat Size:15' 48 Flat-Bottom Jon Boat. I built a mud motor similar to a PPF only I added the Backwater Surface Tracer plate. Outboard with Jack Plate. I have personaly weighed a 35 hunter short. mallard maasher Discussion starter ·. _________________. Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:21 pm: Swamper01. The coils can fire, But a bad diode will allow the current to backfeed and kill the opposite coil. It really makes a little difference when paired with a worked prop but only after the skeg has been cut. Holds 32 in deep water and ran 33 in shallow. Last night i had full tank, 2 batteries, trolling motor, cooler full of beverages, 2 bags of gear, 2 guns, and 3 people averaging 200lb a piece. I have a lease on the calumet cutt that I am willing to depart with. What is the difference between the 842921 and the 492932? First oil change on my 37efi. 35 GDSD STAGE 2-18x44 GUTTED GD. I run that to bowfish, bass fish, and hunt. Wiring harness from key has yellow, black, white, orange, and red leads. A 2 blade vs a 3 blade. You need to try before you buy! _____ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327. In Alaska using a whole duck for dog training is "wanton waste" and subject to all sorts of legal problems. . Posts: 5. I used my airless and got it to spray it but seems like its spraying too much paint. Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:11 pm Posts: 556 Location: Metairie, LA Re: Black Cloud ammo problems. Posts: 4. i6/50 GT W 4400 Hdr i have always ran a Hammer,like it cause its beefier and last longer than a BB. Nor is it a fund raiser for anything, but I have leftover Flyway hats I'll let folks have for $25 and a sticker if you want one. Ive hunted off baptiste for the past few years so i know about the river and how dangerous it can be. The interior is 17 feet. VERY pleased with the GG. Talking with the salesman, he recommended having the motor geared down with a big blade prop for better holeshot and if I wanted something with a little more speed to run rivers and play in the summer, get a 3 blade or hammer for speed. Re: killswitch problems. Props tested were the GT 2 blade, GT 3 blade, and MB Hammer. All props tested with a cut skeg. My hull is 2013 and has a few blemishes on the bottom. Location: New Iberia, La. Inherited a old go-devil with a vanguard engine . We'll be staying at one of the campgrounds on the wma. The clone is the honda clone 11 hp that would come with the twister kit. Same style clutch used on a lawnmower and they get several thousand. The stock 22hp Predator is a California emissions engine. Posts: 721. Speeds | Deep Water: 1. I know this isnt a mud-motor but i searched many forums before deciding what blind to buy for my lund alaskan. Mike Kliebert Custom. This will tell u if it is excessive or not and may point u in the right direction of issue _____ 1754 GTR Xtreme CC w/ Purple. 5 mph empty, rough water, ~ 3-6 feet. Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:17 pm: fish_hook128. Con: not very good in rough water. The propeller must run in a floating position. pull on the 2 wires going into the clutch. Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:39 am. Re: 36 Prodrive clutch issue. It's on a riveted 1436 Jon boat, weights like 160lbs. I think a 23 should be around 4000 out of the water and 37-3800 in the water. Re: Wetlander or Gatorglide. MMT Elite Member. The 22hp wasn't alot faster, but it did have alot more torque. All speeds posted on the for mud motors are inflated. MMT Pro Member. Two times while we were out frogging, his motor blew the 25 amp fuse. i really would like to find a used rig with a 35 on it in the 16 or 17' range. banded double sprig pintail/BROOKS. MMT Addict. Like you I need to repaint mine also. 22 is hauling ass with all but a 35 longtail. if so you may find the. Here's where I f'd up. I run a stage 3 and no problems, just keep up on my pm's on motor and outdrive. Also if others run across additional information, please add to it. I believe they stoped making the threaded shaft for those motors. Copperhead height above transom. Get a pushrod and see what happens. Most everyone agrees that headwork is the biggest bang for the buck upfront. Posts: 27. For the best results I would apply directly to the aluminum. Location: Trinity Bay - Texas. added another 200lbs 8mph plowing unable to get on plane. 7 MPHRe: Gas pouring out of carb overflow?! FWIW, I have seen only a couple situations were an e-pump is really needed and that was when the stock pump was defective. The mod v front handles some ms river chop well and the boat felt safe. ride through the swamp and head to 601 sandbar. Posts: 50. Details 1. Re: Prodrive Clutch. One wire will come from the tethered kill switch and the other will be a short section of wire about 4-5". Re: 22hp predatpr mods and top speeds. Look where the pushrod seats under the rocker arm. Joined: Fri May 27, 2016 7:51 pm Posts: 7 Re: 23 Hp vanguard not running rightI finally pulled the trigger and bought a Mudbuddy 25HP Kohler LT. MMT 1000 Club. Location: carrollton MS. im not going to jump on anything when im ready ill have until next season to decide but ive read a ton of good things about the copperhead pushing a big load very. For the kill switch typically any two across from each other are the ones you want to connect. Last visit was: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:35 am: It is currently Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:35 amTC you heard af anything to get by the regulations so people can run their boats out in the refuge? Like any props that will be 9 inches or less? Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:47 pm: Team Camo. I used PTI zinc chromate green primer. Re: 27 Hp Kohler Mods/Tune Up. There aren't many replacement parts out there. _____ Re: 2 blade prop destroying hunting season 37XD. A "17 foot" gator trax with a hunt deck is 18 and a half feet long. Running two motors has the benefit of redundancy but a larger hp single would have a place in this market. _____MMT Member. Iron Mountain heads will need a valve job @50hrs anyway, also there are better builders here. After a new install of parts, put dial on shaft and measure run out. 00 per year. MMT 1000 Club. Duck season comes around and the first few runs out I had the motor running about 3500-3600 RPM (max is 4000 w governor). United States. I want to install a killswitch. Because of the popularity of the Santee region for public waterfowl hunting, the declines in waterfowl numbers have evoked. _________________. No hooks but a few dings. I see its been awhile since someone has posted in here, so I figure I'll wake this thread up. Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:02 am. Thats JMHO. Craig I'm unsure of the brand but if you call GD they have their paint in stock. yea a terminal kill switch works in a normal open position and when you pull the cord it closes the circuit grounding the coils out, killing the engine. GatorGlide and GatorBase sticks better than anything I've found in 35 years of painting. DIY about +-$1800. Re: Kem 400. Posts: 94. at least that's been my experience the last 2 years I've been there. I don't want to get inside the motor, but I would like to open it up some. MMT Addict. Their all B&S motors their just as durable as the next. . Location: Duck Hill & Starkville, MS Re: Go Devil prop question. New carb, fuel pump, fuel filter, new hose. Looks like from everything I've seen online that the original 9hp Briggs and 23 Briggs have same pto height and bolt Circumference pattern on back of motors bolt mounting pattern for the base is off alittle but just have to drill two holes and change prop size from 8x4 I have now to the 9x6 and work on balance of motor after mounting it all up . A guy at the launch and I had a conversation about this exact topic. Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:04 am. MMT Super Elite Member. Re: Outboard vs Surface Drive. Throttle cables are going to freeze in general. Subscribe. as a prior scavenger owner, its a good cheap motor. Has anyone done this on a 23 and if so how did it do,I have a very short run for a 9 inch prop in the refuge like 5 minute ride,and the long run is out of the refuge and I will take one minute of my time to put 11 inch back on,any. Get a long drill bit and drill a pilot hole all the way through from top to bottom where you want it. My guess. find a good prodrive repair place and they might give you that piece. I started with a 1436/ 18 HP GD. Lever style throttle , 30$ , 20 minutes. Crawfish. I'm running a 17 x 44 Southfork Mud Hull. 1. make sure the switch is grounded properly to the HANDLE, has no flat spots and is connected to the terminal ground screw which is if you are. When trying to get on plane when the motor gets to a certain rpm it sounds like the orop blows out. While picking up decoys idling around it sputters and loses power and wants to kill and when I try to get up and run she runs like garbage for a while. Cameron, SC 29030. Re: 29 kawasaki fuel pump help!! Walbro GSL393 (40GPH @ 30ish PSI) Airtex E8228 (38GPH @ 30ish PSI) Walbro GSL391 (50GPH @ 30ish PSI) Some aftermarket pumps that meet the required specs as the pump for the FD791D (the 29hp kawa with fuel injection that you have uses a pump with 38 GPH at 26ish psi). Just picked up a brand new Copperhead 23. Only mod is a marshmellow muffler. Balancing a surface drive prop is an excellent idea. A few of us are thinking about making a 3 day hunt at pass a loutre for our first time within the next few weeks. Add 850 lbs max speed 22. Re: Advice on surface drive mud motor. I take a bird, open the breast and remove the breast meat. Part number is 34-1686. Ah shit, all my godevil motors had a little water in the grease even inside the shaft tube. 2014 PRODIGY 1754 (#19). Re: Go Devil ignition system. Completely empty, I'm running 37-38 on my 1848 custom crawfish skiff. Posts: 1103. It was wild. 2. 18 hp Go Devil shaft/prop removal issues. HDR 5000. Last visit was: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:07 pm: It is currently Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:07 pmLocation: The duck Mecca called Ga! Re: Mikuni carb ??? _____ HOTSAUCE170 wrote: I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. The 22hp wasn't alot faster, but it did have alot more torque. Location: Belle Chasse, LA. Re: Starter / Battery / etc. thanks man. It was brand new last winter this is the first year I've hunted with it. Posts: 1913. When turning about 3530 or so rpm's with a slightly wore down prop, you will run about 18 mph with a very light load. Empty with just 5 gallons of gas (30 pounds), 5 2x2x8 boards (20 pounds), 1. It came with a Q pipe and a 40" prop shaft. Posts: 3833. Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36. Imagine my surprise when I looked back and saw my prop was gone. Since folks are always asking which prop performs best on a GatorTail, I decided to get a few of the available props and put them to the test side by side in the exact conditions at the exact time to see exactly which prop performs best in different conditions. tail winds, tail currents, shallow water, light load. Then unhook your factory motor kill switch to the ground wire that goes under the fuel tank there should be two bullet connections, take them apart. Low spring pressure, pushrod jumped out of place and pegged the retainer down on the seal. It takes some elbow grease. Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La. Wchauvin. Is anyone familiar with the River Run mud motors? the offer small MM's with a neutral clutch standard; and a reverse feature is available too. Location: Rowlett, TX. Specs are. The carb I used is a 34 mm mikuni round slide . Made an adjustment at the governor and now it turns just under 3,600 in the water. especially when you say they aren't as crowded as other nearby areas. 125 hybrid V rake w/hunt deck. When they jump you can usually see a mark from where pushrod tried to run. Looking for my first duck boat and mud motor. Spot lights every where it made Rhetts look like a day care. Posts: 46. you are correct, grease and oil are 2 different things. . MB 5500 Black Death. Trouble finding Oil Leak. I have a 16 hp long tail go devil, and I am curious if anyone else has had this problem. 2012 Sparkleberry Swamp Duck Run Hotties. They are doing it on the mini frame also. Go Devil Boat. Forum. Joined: Fri Feb 01,. I would suspect your prop could be worn, High rpms and lost speed/load carrying ability is a symptom. Re: Spud Pole Holes for Go Devil Boat. Posts: 701. It's the stock configuration as far as prop/gearing. MMT Addict. Just upgraded not long ago from my lil mudbuddy. There's a wire on each side of the cylindrical mercury switch. Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin. some days it's awesome most days it's average. Stable as hell. MMT 1000 Club. Posts: 68. The length is the bottom of the boat - it doesn't matter that part of it is enclosed. Wondering if someone with a Copperhead 18hp or 23hp could measure how high they sit while mounted on a transom (to the top of the airbox). on my 5-18hp it would bog down so much i dident even want to go through anything with it. Can't believe there's been no comments on this since fri the 8th! MMT has never been known for its lack of opinionated experts , who are always ready to comment on something they may (or may not) know anything about. I understand this is not the best boat for the motor, I'm having a different one built but this is it for now. IMG_2511. Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:38 am Posts: 10201 Location: SETX Re: Deer Hunting Angelina National Forest (Sam Rayburn Lake. Looking at getting a 9hp and wondered if one was better than the other. Sumter, South Carolina. Briggs key is a Briggs key. MMT Elite Member. The coils can fire, But a bad diode will allow the current to backfeed and kill the opposite coil. Changed to 2 blade prop. Been around several that are 3-4 years old and still going. Duralux duck boat drab. This year I added a Backwater Swomp lite kit 65'' shaft with 7" prop on my 15'4' Gheenoe -went cheap and put it on a $99. Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:33 am. _____Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:10 am. Details 1. The first. First night we left a little early and caught a lil mess of bass before the sun went down. #GhostBoat. They ain't worth it . Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:42 am. Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:10 pm: deadbird8. Working with Nick Peltier on a build- heads, cam, hex shaft and a tune on PD 40 EFI. Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:16 am Posts: 250 Location: Sumter, SC Re: 1638 godevil. Second went maybe at 55 hours got that from PD also. Plus and outboard will probably have a better weight to power ratio to push it. All of them are different. 006 Spark Plug gap . Re: 22hp predator starter issue. Last visit was: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:23 pm: It is currently Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:23 pm Location: Gladewater TX. MMT Pro Member. We have pilings drove for camps, and no wake signs. Will be on a 1436 weldbilt crawdad. Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:16 pm Posts: 612 Location: Orange, Texas Re: Pro drive boat or Go devil? Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:17 pm: Rick. #Whoneedsphysicsihaveamudmotor. _________________. Duralux duck boat drab. 5- 31 mph with a light load. The majority of the time problems are caused by air leaks, bad primer bulbs, or dirt. Direct drive 6ft shaft. Posts: 574. Have a KS 1 switch. Re: Wiring killswitch predator 670. Re: Mud buddy drive question. The 1754 will be slightly faster empty all things else bring equal. Location: Mandeville, LA. Just picked up a brand new Copperhead 23. " - Willie Braun: Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:44 pm: pirogue1. With this setup I am turning 3850 rpms consistently in the water. Location: Sumter, SC. 16/44 is a nice size boat the 35 will get you up on plane but easing through shallows your but ill be dragin, the 27 will be 90lbs lighter but you will give up the top speed. The 22hp wasn't alot faster, but it did have alot more torque. Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:16 am. There are quite a few discussions where one proves better than the other in different curcumstances, so it'll depend on what kind of conditions you run in. Skybusters: Magic Does Not Apply to Shotgun Physics. you'll like it coondik, wish i still had both, but just don't need 2 mud rigs, so i chose the pd. Jason and crew came through perfect on this skiff. I have the stock two blade prop. Kit: Mud-Skipper 5-7 HP longtail motor drive system. The bearings are in the flared housings on the outdrive. I would 1. Willey’s templet is the correct one for performance. Grease piston-go devil. Location: st bernard louisiana. Carb and exhaust, will do good also. Whatever kind of metal they use is hard as rock. I could never get that setup to work right with my 1542 mod v hull and had to constantly muscle it to the point of near. I live in Oklahoma hunt waterfowl on lakes and rivers. Two corner boxes. Well have at lesst 2-3 boats going. duckduckboom. Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes. Starter and solenoid Briggs 23hp Vanguard? My Briggs 23 Vanguard {380477-0065-E1} was giving me the old "solenoid click" when I turned the key and NOT spinning the starter at all. Be used mainly for small creeks and some tight timber. the original/oem cable on my gator tail is much thicker/beefier. 035. Location: Centreville MD. deadbird8. (buckets marsh seats,ect. When they jump you can usually see a mark from where pushrod tried to run. MMT 1000 Club. catwalks w/bent trays. I may try a larger SPS prop, their cheap enough to experiment with!Anyways this is basically going to be a duck hunting motor on a rather large hull. Location: Rowlett, TX. What is weird is the starter motor spins but doesn't engage the flywheel. Use the search feature for the stages but in general they are a combination of headwork (~$700), cam ($400 part, not including labor), carb (~$800 new), and performance exhaust (~$75 to gut stock up to probably $700 for high end performance). Last visit was: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:33 pm: It is currently Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:33 pmRe: Run perfect on trailer bogs down under load. And I saw impressive gains. Joined: Thu Nov 04. The regular old champion plugs work fine. Not 70 hp like it says, but learned la. Just curious if my speed sounds about right. Would love to hear your thoughts. Didnt find much help so im posting hoping to help someone else out some day. duck commanders only use the best? i watched some of my old duck commander vhs tapes over the weekend and noticed a few things. Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:30 am. Speeds are definitely inflated, but you can consistently see a 40hp run 31-32mph. _____ Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:28 am: Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] Board. Mikuni carb not getting fuel. Posts: 1554. Re: centrifugal clutches. #Whoneedsphysicsihaveamudmotor. Mines a 2014 had the motor a year with 9 hours on it and it does drip water out the tail end just can't seem to figure out how to get the lower gear off and prop off to get them damn bearings out to check or replace thanks for your input as well I'm in Washington state and hardly a soul up here with a mud motor of any sort or help besides rummaging. 031 (NGK BPR5ES) Ignition Coil Gap . For the kill switch typically any two across from each other are the ones you want to connect. MMT Super Elite Member. Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:46 am. Well, same thing happened to me last night. Posts: 4310. Re: Go-Devil Boat Paint. Duck Run. I always get stuck at station 4 for some unworldly reason. It's what I run. If your going to be using it for fishing and hunting and riding and just an all around boat, in your situation i'd do the 18x54 extreme, more room, stable, and get the extended deck to fish off of, go with a huntdeck and 35GTR with reverse plate, put you a rod box/gun box in there. First of all congrats on choosing a great motor, you can install it yourself if you'd like, an engine hoist would definitely be a plus or chain fall. Sounds like you may be pulling the powerhead to inspect it. Joined: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:39 am. we are starting to put the motor that got stolen back together, and i want to make sure we have all the fuses, switches, and relays we need. I have an Excel 1860 F4. Re: Copperhead 23 reviews. Just me, just sayin. [ 5 posts ]Location: Jefferson TX. {motor pulls fine with the rope start}. Check the voltage at the battery- should be ~12. We ran this motor in controlled tests for two days using the same five men, same water and conditions. 2016 Sparkleberry Swamp Duck Run All credit goes to Mike Anderson for creating this video. Hunt Deck ,with MB 4400 Black Death HDR, Duck Slaying, Mud Slingin Machine!!! Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:04 pm:. Re: Mudbuddy trim not working. Re: SeaDek vs AquaTraction. A few of us, not many, plan to take ourselves on a Sparkleberry tour this Saturday morning. In 1989 Shannon "Mac"" McKinney came to my platoon in Cco 3/75 Ranger. Mud Buddy releasing the 25hp EFI Subaru motor in August. Pass a loutre. they come in 1536, 1636, 1836. On the longtail - only grease the U-joints a tad every 20 or 30 hours - but. _________________.